June 9, 2025
How I Talk About Inclusion. Even When I’m Afraid

I Know You’re Afraid To Talk About Inclusion.
I’m Afraid Too.
That sounds weird coming from someone who talks about Inclusion everyday.
Key Topics Covered in This Episode:
- Why speaking in context protects your credibility.
- How relevance reduces risk when discussing inclusion
- How to test if someone is open to evidence.
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Key Takeaways from This Episode:
- Relevance gives your words more power.
- "When you talk about inclusion or diversity or race. Is in context of the space you’re in?"
- Context protects you and builds trust.
- "It would be out of context if I started giving you travel tips. Or if I started giving you dating advice. Or if I started talking about gardening. Those things are out of context."
- Reasonable people change when shown the evidence.
- "One of my tests of if a person is reasonable is if they change their mind when presented with new trustworthy evidence. "
Check out these resources :
- Confronting My Personal Fear of Speaking Up About Diversity and Inclusion
- Free 2-minute audit tool: Check if your business case for inclusion would make sense to your CFO. (Get Access Here)